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DAILY REPORTS and Documents | iPNB LA meeting info Daily notes from the iPNB meeting - Los Angeles March 8 - 10, 2002 |
3-10-02: Sunday
Apologies for name misspellings.
Proposed agenda for Sunday has been entirely revised. PNB Directors present: George Barnstone, Carol Spooner, Dave Fertig, Ray LaForest, Jabari Zakiya , Leslie Cagan, Pete Bramson, Janice K. Bryant, Teresa Allen, Marion Barry, Rob Robinson Not present: Dick Gregory, Bert Lee, James Ferguson 9:20am Chair Leslie Cagan calls the meeting to order -Judy Gorman Jacobs (NYC) sings accapella song she wrote for the free Pacifica movement. "We will sing our song" Introduced by Fred Nguyen(NJ) who wants the song to be the Pacifica anthem. Chair Cagan jokes that this is proof of music on Pacifica. Though way behind the schedule, we will attempt to finish entire agenda, shorting time for each item. -anouncement: Peace march in Venice at 2pm While waiting for Robinson to come in with materials related to continuing the bylaws discussion Leslie jumps ahead to Democracy Now! report and other items that can be moved through quickly. Democracy Now! report DN back on all stations. Back pay, grievances issues and future relationship still being worked out. DN has being very patient. Resolution to solve PNN stringer strike [resolution] read by Pete Bramson(entered as motion and seconded). for settling the PNN stringers' strike. "Whereas etc...." -Dave Fertig What is cost of satellite hookup? -Arron, Randy Zimmerman, Jeremy of FSRN come up to mike [applause] to answer that there is no cost to Pacifica for the satellite hookup. iPNB thanks FSRN [standing ovation] -Barry What is cost of FSRN? A:none MOTION PASSES unanimously by show of Hands Affiliates comments -Elizabeth Robinson, W___? Her station is trying to decide whether to re-affiliate with Pacifica. Wants to know if contracts will involve reasonable terms and whether Pacifica will be responsive and in a relationship of equals with the affiliates. Through the crisis they have become more independent and don't "need" Pacifica, particularly if it doesn't get it's act together. [sounds somewhat bitter] -Cynthia. KAOS, Olympia WA Have re-affiliated. They are looking for a GM, interested in recruiting help. kaosradio.org -Mark Hernandas, KFCF Fresno In 1901 Fresno made free speech history... Station started with College legal defense fund in the '60s and affiliated with KPFA but not Pacifica. A unique independent position. Message of hope to Pacifica. -Marty Durlin, KGNU Boulder Represents Grass Roots Radio coalition. Has questions are regarding affiliate policy, Democracy Now, FSRN. Affects around 60 stations. -Randy Zimerman, WMNF Tampa WMNF Mission statement coincides with Pacifica's. WMNF fully funded FSRN when relation with [hijacked] Pacifica went bad. Rhyme, wbix.org Not traditional affiliate but was instrumental in keeping things going during the struggle. Request a committee to define Pacifica's relation with wbix to determine how to use it's resources and archives created over the past year of freePacifica activity and to consider fundraising for wbix. [standing ovation] MOTION by LaForest to fulfill wbix's request. To have national staff get together and determine how to do this. PASSES unanimously by show of hands. -Barry Who deals with affiliates? A: Brian Gibbons [in national office] -Cagan We don't need a contract but a relationship with the affiliates. The center of it shouldn't be money. Pacifica and affiliates are mission driven entities. -Spooner Recognizes the role of the affiliates in getting the information out and helping the movement, particularly at the Grass Roots radio conf. Affiliate listeners make up %15 of audience. Pacifica indebted to affiliates. MOTION -Barry Moves that Pacifica form a 3 person affiliates matters committee. PASSES unanimously by show of hands Cagan, Allen and Bramson will be on the committee Treasurer issue revisited -Cagan clarifies yesterdays treasurer issue. Not meant to be a slap in the face to Jabari but meant to act of greater issue of getting proper process in place for straightening out the finances as recommended by the accountants. [recomendations] Jabari is still the treasurer until someone is found. The vote was to initiate the search for a qualified person and that the definition of responsibilities was left open for now. -Jabari There needs to be work on boards methods. [applause] The process needs to be much more open. All agenda items and motions need to available prior to meetings to board members. [applause] Feels that board may be headed towards Mary France Berry type activity. It's no secret that Carol and some others wanted me out as treasurer. [Plays race card a bit] -Janice K. Bryant Takes exception Jabari playing the race card. Resents being put in the position of being accused of working against blacks. -Addelson Had nominated Jabari for treasurer because he was qualified, but disapproves of playing race card. Yesterdays vote was on an administrative issue. -LaForest Concerned with getting the best policy in place to get things done. -Barry The motions was not personal against Jabari. Agrees with Jabari that resolutions shouldn't be presented last minute. -Allen Thanks Jabari for his work. Thinks that he should be treasurer. -Jabari Clarifies that his basic concern is that openness is the issue. He hasn't been informed about important things. We need more honest and open. Suggests that the board need to personally get together more at perhaps a retreat. -Carol Spooner Was hoping that the issue would not be one of conflict. There was considerable previous discussion before the meeting. She didn't want to have public process regarding his disqualification's. Her concern was to get a fully qualified person. -Leslie It was important to air this issue a bit today and now to move the agenda. Determines that the general body approves that the board continue in private, perhaps as Jabari suggested, at a retreat. Bylaws re-writing procedure (continued from yesterday) -Robinson reads proposal worked out by board members at outside meetings since yesterday. Goals: To make new bylaws that conform procedural framework for lab elections that gain support of 2/3rds of iPNB " " atleast 3 if not all LABs. Carol Spooner will chair committee that will prepare a draft of bylaws Subcommittees in each 5 areas chaired by iPNB member Spooner will send draft to LABs who will comment through subcommittees back to iPNB committees. Back and forth process... KPFA elections procedure will in the 1st draft. MOTION seconded. -Barry This procedure aims at maximum participation. --Bernie Eisenberg [out of order] protest from public comment mike that proposal is unfair because the process begins from the top down. -Leslie The proposal doesn't specify how the local Subcommittees will be specifically structured -Carol Favors to start from bottom up [not what the proposal on the table calls for]. -LaForest Would like to get a consensus from the Pacifica community before deciding whether the initial draft comes from top down or bottom up. -Cagan Explains that the basic differences is whether initial draft comes from top down or bottom up. She favors top down initiation because it'll start everyone off on the same page and speed up process and utilize alot work already done. -Allen agrees. -Community comment -Ted Friedman wpfw LAB passes -Eve moser, NYC Concerned that there is one vote per person during the process. [a iPNB person who is also LAB member and on thier area's drafting subcommittee would be able to vote on rules that affects thier postion and do this at all three levels] -Roger Manning, NYC, wbai.net Regarding yesterday's question as to whether the bylaws revisions could be put off after the elections were taken care of; the nature of the LAB or station boards would need to be defined before electing anyone to them. As for the concerned raised by Eve Moser perhaps LAB or iPNB members could be considered non-voting members of the bylaw re-writing subcommittees. -John Sheridan Concerned that listeners' input may be compromised in the subcommittees procedures aren't clearly defined. -Howard CF, elections committee Proposes that the iPNB committee comes up a set of questions to be distributed to the subcommittees instead of a first draft of the bylaws. -Tom Irwin Been in movement since '86 Very critical of this meeting Wants the iPNB to get their act together. -Carolyn Birden, NYC Disappointed that the iPNB is disregarding listener proposals and concerns regarding bylaws revision procedure. The proposal on the table is like the the foxes guarding the henhouse. [audience laughter] Disrespectful to the listeners Process should not be top down. -Cagan clarifies Only 2 binding votes for the bylaws, the LAB vote and iPNB vote -Jonathon Markowitz, LA Subcommittees should not be restricted. -Delay Calls for empowerment of immigrants on committees. -Mike Concerned with gays being marginialized. -Miguel Maldonado, WBAI LAB chair Supports process where the LABs have more power in this process. That the LAB comes out with the first drafts. -Dave Addelson, KPFK LAB Thinks that the concern is that certain proposals will be disregarded. Feels that the iPNB committee should sort out and facilitate the distribution of the proposals. The board is working is good faith but hasn't been utilizing the resource that is the listeners. -Fernando Vasquez -LA The problem is that things need to be rushed. Marion -KPFA listener activist Supports the top down approach. -Michael Pimental As many iPNB people as possible be involve in the bylaws composing process. -Spooner Reads suggestions that both approaches be done at the same time. No reason why not, but would like to see the subcommittees set up right now. Thinks that it would be better for the 5 subcommittees to share the work of sorting out the various proposals. Supports the bottom up approach. We need to address our fears. Feels that top down is a daunting task that should involve more than a small number of people. -LaForest Suggest compromise. -Fertig Doesn't feel that top down is too daunting a task and that it's a better way to get things going, particularly in the interest of time. -Leslie clarifies: 1.Draft originates from iPNB committee 2.Draft originates from local subcommittees 3.Draft originates from both simultaneously -Spooner clarifies: That bottom up wouldn't necessarily mean 5 different proposals.[proposals would have much in common] -Bryant While top down is in the interest of time, bottom up is better to in the interest of peace and process. -Point of process (from audience) Could Addelson's suggestion for iPNB committee to put a list of questions and issues instead of bylaws draft as a friendly amendment? -Cagan Says this might good as the main issue is getting the 5 subcommittees started on the same page. Comes up with a variation which is that is that the national committee comes up with a document that consolidates questions and issues and concerns that need to addressed in the bylaws as the innitial item to be distributed by to the subcommittees. -MOTION Robison's presented proposal accepting Leslie's amendment PASSES unanimously by show of hands except Jabari who abstains. [applause] Composition of local subcommittees -Public comment -Donna Gould , CF of WBAI suggest ammendment ...[missed this] -Jane Jackson,KPFA Praises chair. Asks that disabled people be part of the bylaws process. -Cagan Calls for all meeting places for Pacifica activities to have disabled access. -Steve Brown - NYC Can any bylaws not be approved without being approved by mission commission first? -LaForest The the mission commission has veto power. -Spooner Expects if the process goes well disagreement will part of it. -Bernie Eisenberg Steve Brown's proposal is also covered in the proposal that his group presented. Concerned that the iPNB seems to have completely disregarded the listener proposal presented yesterday with 42 endorsements including LAB members from 4 stations. -Cagan There was a working meeting that was announced and that public was allowed. -Barry Wants to vote the way he wants regardless of pressure. -Allen It's important for iPNB people to sometimes meet out of session in order to get thier act together and to come up with drafts etc. MOTION -Spooner clarifies proposal for forming subcommittees: (at least)1 iPNB member, (at least)3 LAB members and all public included. iPNB local would chair/facilitate the meetings or [accepted friendly amendment] delegate that function. PASSES unanimously by show of hands [applause] -Leslie thanks for getting through this agenda item in focused manner Report on Search for Execute Director -Committee chair Marion Barry reports: 14 resumes, narrow down to 5. Good candidates, process is going well. Will have a recommendation for one person. Process for search/hiring permanent station managers -Leslie hands out her proposed guidelines Differences from station to station. Time restraints, population sizes etc... Guidelines outline: -The tasks for search/hiring committee -Composition of committee -Broader community/staff involvement -must make commitment to diversity -national coordination is essential in facilitating much of this -Exe. director would be an exofficio member of all 5 local committees -Spooner Concerned about community/staff involvement in the final stages of the process. Supports that finalists write vision statements anonymously so as to be able to express views openly with out risk of possible persectution by current employers or other sources. -Fertig KPFA area organizing in this so far has many similarities to this proposal. -Miguel Maldanado No candidates that have not gone through the process can not be brought in by Exe. dir at last minute. What process will be used to get the word out to diverse communities? -Cagan agrees. -Jabari Feels the iPNB have the final approval of selection to facilitate members staying up on things and to perhaps add another layer of listener input. -Spooner Doesn't think the board should be directly involving in hiring manners and veto power over the Exe. Director who they hire. -Cagan Agrees that this is important with regard the goal of the of the iPNB to decentralize power. -Barry Can Exe. director reject all candidates and start again -Public comments: -Shirna LA, West side free Pacifica neighborhood network Talks off topic abit... Concerned with composition of search committee. We need young people. At large youth members should be added to the committees. Introduces resolution regarding privacy issue: There should be at least one on air forum where the candidates would speak anonymously. -Roy Hearst - KPFA staff The kpfk staff feels that it's essential that that staff has input because they have practical knowledge. The criteria will political, hopefully the political qualifications won't outweigh the management qualifications. Getting community involvement important. -John Riley -NYC Presents a resolution drafted last night on hiring practices with regard to race and nationality. -Leslie reiterates that these are only guidelines and that the 5 listener areas need to come up with specifics. MOTION PASSES unanimously -Cagan reviews remaining agenda items. Suggest postponing on air policy. Moving the national office back to Berkeley MOTION To move national office back to Berkeley as soon as possible [accepted Spooner friendly amendment ], but no later than the end of this year. -Barry Has reservations. Can we wait till permanent board to move? [some audience laughter] -Jabari Feels that things are not together enough for the move which would be detrimental and unnecessary. There is a basic question if iPNB is a constituency driven, or issue driven body. There is a philosophical issue about power consolidating. iPNB needs to work out it's processes. Wants the process to create the answer. -Fertig Yes, we should be process oriented but we are also listener oriented and there is real substance in the desire to move the office back. -LaForest Voted against the move in NYC because there was no prior discussion then. The decision should be based on real issues more than more emotional issues. Wants to separate the move of finical office. -Bryant There is network wide support. She supports move. -Cagan Wants to get Pacifica HQ out the right wing "cesspool" of D.C. Feels Berkeley is logical place to go. It's important to listen to demonstrating voices. This proposal doesn't call for moving until we're more ready. -Spooner The hijacker's moving the office out of Berkeley was a breach of trust. Although administrative and finance could be moved at different times, we should commit to moving both now. -Barry What are advantage? -Spooner answers: Would save money. Things that Leslie said. -Sam Huseini, D.C LAB In principle supports move, practically speaking, because of Berkeley's ability to get 10,000 people into the streets. [1999] Agrees with the cesspool acessment. Concerned with time table. There needs to remain a strong news staff in D.C. -LaForest Agrees that the move to D.C was a violation but that doesn't mean that moving back is the best solution. Does the cesspool have an affect on the national? MOVES that items be split. There will be a separate vote on the financial and administrative moves. -Allen Who and how would the date of the moves? -Cagan answers that it would probably best determined by the national staff. -One listener comment -Barnstone gets clarification on the motions. -Barry correctly points out that they must first vote on the motion to slit the motion. MOTION to split motion FAILS with a tie vote [2/3 needed] MOTION to move the administrative and financial offices [Vote is delayed by Barnstone who can't decide... Barry abstains... Barnstone savors the spotlight and then delivers the deciding vote to big applause] PASSES 7 to 2, one abstains [big applause] Endorsement policy - specific requests for endorsements -MOTION George Barnstone presents proposal that the iPNB endorse a resolution that supports a moratorium on the death penalty by Sister Prejun's organization. -Leslie Offers that the iPNB not make endorsements, particularly being a new organization and that on air editorials be used to the same the ends of taking a clear position. -George Feels that making endorsements will aid in attracting money and that Pacifica should take a stand on certain issues. Feels that they should do both his and Leslie's suggestion. -Ferig Concerned with opening flood gates - many requests for Pacifica endorsemnents. -Spooner Concerned about affect on tax exempt status. -Janice We know about the issue and Sister Prejun because of Pacifica's reporting. -George Amends to his motion to include Leslie's ideas. MOTION FAILS 6, 3, 1 abstention MOTION by Cagan to reinstitute editorials from the PNB on major social issues and that a specific editorial be made in opposition to the death penalty. PASSES unanimously MOTION by Barnstone to support the closing of "the gun show loophole" Not seconded. Set meeting Schedule Some concern about moving up the date for the next meeting in order to get a budget set as soon as possible but this is determined to be impracticle. Budget - will be gotten to over the phone. Proposed schedule: June 21 -Berkeley, Sept 20 -Houston Dec 6 -DC, March 22, 2003 -NYC Schedule accepted -Dave Fertig Thanks this weekend's organizers. Acknowledges David Addelson for his pioneered the Southern CA free Pacifica movement. -Janice K. Bryant Loved the unity of the national day of programming and that people should go back to their areas and assure people that the iPNB is with them. -Carol Spooner Brings up the "Pacifica Matters" national radio program proposals that that didn't get addressed. [one of the proposals at: www.pacificamatters.net] -Leslie Urges the boare members to review the "Pacifica Matters" materials that have been presented to them. -LaForest Thanks LA for the hospitality and is thinks that "Pacifica Matters" needs to be a priority. 1:55pm or so meeting ajourns to much applause. Roger Manning, NYC |
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